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Medieval
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I rate BK and quite highly. I know over the years he hasn't shown us much but that's due to 2 things. 1. The sub rule. 2. The fact that when he has played, we've played him out of position. This kid was AA in the U18 National team 2 years in a row. He's got talent. He needs to be played as a midfielder, plain and simple. We've played him as a FP and HFF, with occasional runs through the middle, where he's racked up a few clearances. It's a shame that we would be happy to give him away, given we haven't even used him for what he's best at. That's like buying a lawnmower and complaining when it can't trim your hedges. Although in fairness, we've recruited to the point where his opportunities in the midfield would be even more limited than what they have been. And for people saying he's too small and can't kick; remember Tony Shaw?
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swoop42 
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Melbourne liked Kennedy but were never considering drafting him at 4.
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inxs88
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| swoop42 wrote: | | Melbourne liked Kennedy but were never considering drafting him at 4. |
Correct, they drafted Toumpas ahead of the next preferred Wines.
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inxs88
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So we signed Varcoe in Bali last year and maybe Howe this year. Lets set up a base in Kuta!
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Medieval
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| inxs88 wrote: | https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
Moving forward!! |
For those who can't read FB at work:
"Melbourne and Collingwood are set to negotiate a deal that would see Jeremy Howe and Ben Kennedy trade places according to 1116 SEN.
Howe is catching up with Collingwood senior coach Nathan Buckley, skipper Scott Pendlebury and a raft of other senior Magpies in Bali this week
Kennedy has told the Pies of interest in a trade to Melbourne for more opportunity.
The Roos and Suns remain interested in Howe."
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GoWoodsmen
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| Medieval wrote: | | I rate BK and quite highly. I know over the years he hasn't shown us much but that's due to 2 things. 1. The sub rule. 2. The fact that when he has played, we've played him out of position. This kid was AA in the U18 National team 2 years in a row. He's got talent. He needs to be played as a midfielder, plain and simple. We've played him as a FP and HFF, with occasional runs through the middle, where he's racked up a few clearances. It's a shame that we would be happy to give him away, given we haven't even used him for what he's best at. That's like buying a lawnmower and complaining when it can't trim your hedges. Although in fairness, we've recruited to the point where his opportunities in the midfield would be even more limited than what they have been. And for people saying he's too small and can't kick; remember Tony Shaw? |
Sorry not a fan of BK at all. Tried to give him a chance this year. Yes he can find the ball but his skills are appalling. Handball OK but kicking would be in our bottom 3-4 at the club I reckon. Regardless of my opinion listening to Balme this week there is a very strong attitude from management (at least publicly) that if you don't want to be here, we will try and find you a new home - on the proviso the trade benefits Collingwood as well.
He's not best 22 IMO and that's why they're not fighting harder. One might argue if he was best 22 he wouldn't be asking for trade!
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Lazza
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Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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I'm glad we are trading for bigger and taller players.
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Medieval
Joined: 09 Sep 2008
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| GoWoodsmen wrote: | | Medieval wrote: | | I rate BK and quite highly. I know over the years he hasn't shown us much but that's due to 2 things. 1. The sub rule. 2. The fact that when he has played, we've played him out of position. This kid was AA in the U18 National team 2 years in a row. He's got talent. He needs to be played as a midfielder, plain and simple. We've played him as a FP and HFF, with occasional runs through the middle, where he's racked up a few clearances. It's a shame that we would be happy to give him away, given we haven't even used him for what he's best at. That's like buying a lawnmower and complaining when it can't trim your hedges. Although in fairness, we've recruited to the point where his opportunities in the midfield would be even more limited than what they have been. And for people saying he's too small and can't kick; remember Tony Shaw? |
Sorry not a fan of BK at all. Tried to give him a chance this year. Yes he can find the ball but his skills are appalling. Handball OK but kicking would be in our bottom 3-4 at the club I reckon. Regardless of my opinion listening to Balme this week there is a very strong attitude from management (at least publicly) that if you don't want to be here, we will try and find you a new home - on the proviso the trade benefits Collingwood as well.
He's not best 22 IMO and that's why they're not fighting harder. One might argue if he was best 22 he wouldn't be asking for trade! |
Totally fair response. He is an in and under player and clean disposal isn't his strong suit. And I agree, I don't think he is in our best 22. His time was up when we got Crisp and Greenwood last year. I do hope he does well and gets plenty of opportunity at Melbourne.
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Pies4shaw 
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| Actually, the startling thing about his kicking is how woeful it becomes in the seniors, even when he isn't under any physical pressure. In at least one game this year, I saw him kick 2 50-metre goals in one quarter on the run in the VFL. To me, that makes his inability to execute the basic skills in the seniors even more baffling. How does a guy who can kick so well at times in the seconds miss that simple set shot that he missed against the Welfare? Perhaps it is psychological pressure that he places on himself - I can't find any other reasonable explanation for it. |
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jackcass 
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | Actually, the startling thing about his kicking is how woeful it becomes in the seniors, even when he isn't under any physical pressure. In at least one game this year, I saw him kick 2 50-metre goals in one quarter on the run in the VFL. To me, that makes his inability to execute the basic skills in the seniors even more baffling. How does a guy who can kick so well at times in the seconds miss that simple set shot that he missed against the Welfare? Perhaps it is psychological pressure that he places on himself - I can't find any other reasonable explanation for it. |
Agree, baffling, but his disposal issues at senior level definitely between the ears. |
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Joel 
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| Nathan Brown is a bit clueless. This is just another example. |
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Piesnchess
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Straight swao for Howe, anything less, the Deeees can go screw themselves. !
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mattdally
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Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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| Add 3rd rounder and it will be done. |
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piedys 
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| inxs88 wrote: | | swoop42 wrote: | | Melbourne liked Kennedy but were never considering drafting him at 4. |
Correct, they drafted Toumpas ahead of the next preferred Wines. |
And Jake Stringer too.
Their recruiter should be torched for that...
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